PS Alan is Swiss and is not wired correctly either None the less I think the group rode very well.
Happy days
Ryan

On 2010/08/24 3:09 PM, "giltrow@mweb.co.za" <giltrow@mweb.co.za> wrote:

Hi Ray
Ja,Great ride.As you know I have been mostly on Track and road bikes for the last 20 years,I have ridden a GS on the road before and enjoyed it but got a bit bored after a while,I must say that I have a new respect for the GS now where the bike really comes into it’s own off road,the way it adapts to different terrain is awesome. I must admit that I got a bit to comfortable sometimes and nearly saw my arse a few times especially on the last sand road trying to stay with Alain.It was also lekker to have some flat out runs on the tar with some of the guy’s.I don’t know if it is possible on that ride but it would also be lekker to have a slower more technical section as well. As Arnold once said "I’ll be back"
Alway’s remember to ride safe until someone comes past you then do what ever it takes to get past him
Txs Again for a great day and best nights sleep I’ve had in a long time !!!!
Marc "Gilrossi"

I must say Mandy (yellow 2002 1150GS) and I were flabbergasted to see all these “new” gravel roaders riding away from us – yeah I did have fuel in the tank and may be sorting out the new suspension BUT everyone was seriously running well!

Windy tar riding can be seriously strenuous, we have 100’s of km in these conditions – off road too, but still I am surprised at the pace you guys set for tar road touring – I tend to cruise at a slower speed 120km/h on the odometer which translates to about R112km/h on the GPS but still the gap open up over the km’s.

Well done to all, as I think the Crater Run had a extremely good reflection of a typical day of GS type touring – I have done 50 000km over the last 2.5 years and on the average do between 300 & 500km a day dependant on riding terrain and the people and places I come across during the day. I tend to sleep where I find myself.

If anyone is keen to hit the road for a 4 to 7 day SA trip feel free to contact me – my diary is fairly flexible, I enjoy low budget out of the way riding – this does not mean the odd luxury lodge cant be included

Again Ray and Alan thank you for the great support and sharing of knowledge – we have many happy miles ahead of us

Kind regards
Ryan
083 660 3975

On 2010/08/24 9:46 AM, "Rolf Schindler" <rschindler@ignis.co.za> wrote:

Greetings to all fellow intrepid explorers,

The Oxford Dictionary teaches us that ‘intrepid’ means – “characterised by resolute fearlessness, fortitude and endurance”.

This is an excellent summary of the people partaking and the journey we undertook; we survived the pies, the stones, the sand and the top boxes.

Pheww!!!

Thanks to all

Rolf and Jacci

PS – Ray, can I attend the ‘Dump Ride’ on the 18 Sept in lieu of the one I missed.

From: Ray Muller [<a href="mailto:ray@toursforafrica.co.za]">mailto:ray@toursforafrica.co.za]
Sent: 23 August 2010 09:13 AM
To: ‘Rolf Schindler’
Cc: ‘Mark McIntosh’; roberthowes@mweb.co.za; david.anley@za.nampak.com; ‘Pano’; ‘Etienne Greeff’; ‘Bruce MacMillan’; ‘Les Berman’; ‘Fred Coetzee’; ‘Franc Lubbe’; blog update; wbrits@yorktpt.com.sg; ‘Les Berman’; ‘Ryan Roux’; exclusive.dc@mweb.co.za; giltrow@mweb.co.za; carlo@lotterco.co.za; lcoxton@global.co.za
Subject: APPRECIATION – RIDE THE CRATER 22/8/’10

Greetings All,

On behalf of all at Cytech/TFA, Alain Morard and I would like to sincerely thank you for your interest in participating on the “Ride the Crater” on Sunday morning.

The Participants were a great group of riders, who were all seen to be having a good time and great ride.

Some unfortunate minor thrills and spills were part of the mornings ride with the odd motorcycle and rider/s displaying some new “character and ego scratches”.

The rider/s that became over excited and carried away in the height of the moment and made contact with terra firma and were unfortunately injured (ego or bodily) we all wish a speedy recovery with a clear message saying “respect your motorcycle because if you don’t it can seriously hurt you”

For the riders who unknowingly dropped a few “missiles” (top cases) off the back of their motorcycles, either spend a few extra rands and purchase a good quality Hepco & Becker Top Case (and lock it) rather than a BMW OE plastic type which if not actually bolted onto the motorcycle and dislodges because of an inferior locking system without you knowing, will become a projectile which could possibly kill someone or cause a serious accident
The count to – date of BMW OE Top Cases dislodging from motorcycles on our organized trips totals 186

In no way being disrespectful the rider who did not lock his Hepco & Becker Top Case onto his motorcycle causing it to unknowingly dismount and just about take a BMW R1200GS Adventure out, unfortunately negatively affects Hepco & Becker’s highly respected name and credibility because of the very unfortunate (understanding and respecting that maturing age is also taking its toll on our memories) oversight of not locking it onto the motorcycle

The novice riders truly excelled themselves and the riders who originally feared dirt/gravel and thick sand riding have no more major concerns as their fears have somewhat been overcome…………………all I can say is respect!!

We are fully aware that some of the maturing bodies may have been a bit stiff/sensitive and/or downright sore this morning, but as they say “what boys won’t do for fun”

We are sure that a lot was learnt by several of the riders, personal riding confidence boosted to a new level and new friendships were made.

If you achieved the listed facts, learned more about the extreme capabilities of your own Motorcycle, had great fun, pushed your limited, acknowledge how capable you actually are just given the push and got your adrenalin pumping, we at Cytech and our Team achieved the “Ride the Crater” objectives.

We would greatly respect your written feedback either good or bad to improve on things that may not have been up to standard. Kindly copy the other riders in as well with your comments

Hope to see you on this weekend’s “Ride Africa” on the 29th August ’10 at our venue in Fochville which will take you to new destinations in deepest darkest Africa or the 5 Day Zimbabwe/Mozambique Recce Run planned for early September

Once again thank you for your participation and valued support

Look forward to hearing from you

Best regards,
Ray Muller
Cycle Technology t/a Cytech and Tours for Africa

61 Port Road,
Robertsham,
Johannesburg.
2190
South Africa

Tel: (011) 433-8850
Mobile: 0828077776
Fax: (011) 433-9132

E-mail: info@toursforafrica.co.za
Website: www.toursforafrica.co.za <http://www.toursforafrica.co.za/>

Official Appointed Distributor of Hepco & Becker Equipment and Luggage Systems for Africa

Agents and Stockists of Wunderlich Equipment and Accessories

Official Appointed Distributor of Corbin Seats for Africa

Regards,
Ryan Roux
Mobile: 083 660 3975

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The Oxford Dictionary teaches us that ‘intrepid’ means – “characterised by resolute fearlessness, fortitude and endurance”.

This is an excellent summary of the people partaking and the journey we undertook; we survived the pies, the stones, the sand and the top boxes.

Pheww!!!

Thanks to all

Rolf and Jacci

PS – Ray, can I attend the ‘Dump Ride’ on the 18 Sept in lieu of the one I missed.

From: Ray Muller [mailto:ray@toursforafrica.co.za]
Sent: 23 August 2010 09:13 AM
To: ‘Rolf Schindler’
Cc: ‘Mark McIntosh’; roberthowes@mweb.co.za; david.anley@za.nampak.com; ‘Pano’; ‘Etienne Greeff’; ‘Bruce MacMillan’; ‘Les Berman’; ‘Fred Coetzee’; ‘Franc Lubbe’; blog update; wbrits@yorktpt.com.sg; ‘Les Berman’; ‘Ryan Roux’; exclusive.dc@mweb.co.za; giltrow@mweb.co.za; carlo@lotterco.co.za; lcoxton@global.co.za
Subject: APPRECIATION – RIDE THE CRATER 22/8/’10

Greetings All,

On behalf of all at Cytech/TFA, Alain Morard and I would like to sincerely thank you for your interest in participating on the “Ride the Crater” on Sunday morning.

The Participants were a great group of riders, who were all seen to be having a good time and great ride.

Some unfortunate minor thrills and spills were part of the mornings ride with the odd motorcycle and rider/s displaying some new “character and ego scratches”.

The rider/s that became over excited and carried away in the height of the moment and made contact with terra firma and were unfortunately injured (ego or bodily) we all wish a speedy recovery with a clear message saying “respect your motorcycle because if you don’t it can seriously hurt you”

For the riders who unknowingly dropped a few “missiles” (top cases) off the back of their motorcycles, either spend a few extra rands and purchase a good quality Hepco & Becker Top Case (and lock it) rather than a BMW OE plastic type which if not actually bolted onto the motorcycle and dislodges because of an inferior locking system without you knowing, will become a projectile which could possibly kill someone or cause a serious accident

The count to – date of BMW OE Top Cases dislodging from motorcycles on our organized trips totals 186

In no way being disrespectful the rider who did not lock his Hepco & Becker Top Case onto his motorcycle causing it to unknowingly dismount and just about take a BMW R1200GS Adventure out, unfortunately negatively affects Hepco & Becker’s highly respected name and credibility because of the very unfortunate (understanding and respecting that maturing age is also taking its toll on our memories) oversight of not locking it onto the motorcycle

The novice riders truly excelled themselves and the riders who originally feared dirt/gravel and thick sand riding have no more major concerns as their fears have somewhat been overcome…………………all I can say is respect!!

We are fully aware that some of the maturing bodies may have been a bit stiff/sensitive and/or downright sore this morning, but as they say “what boys won’t do for fun”

We are sure that a lot was learnt by several of the riders, personal riding confidence boosted to a new level and new friendships were made.

If you achieved the listed facts, learned more about the extreme capabilities of your own Motorcycle, had great fun, pushed your limited, acknowledge how capable you actually are just given the push and got your adrenalin pumping, we at Cytech and our Team achieved the “Ride the Crater” objectives.

We would greatly respect your written feedback either good or bad to improve on things that may not have been up to standard. Kindly copy the other riders in as well with your comments

Hope to see you on this weekend’s “Ride Africa” on the 29th August ’10 at our venue in Fochville which will take you to new destinations in deepest darkest Africa or the 5 Day Zimbabwe/Mozambique Recce Run planned for early September

Once again thank you for your participation and valued support

Look forward to hearing from you

Best regards,

Ray Muller

Cycle Technology t/a Cytech and Tours for Africa

61 Port Road,

Robertsham,

Johannesburg.

2190

South Africa

Tel: (011) 433-8850

Mobile: 0828077776

Fax: (011) 433-9132

E-mail: info

Website: www.toursforafrica.co.za

Official Appointed Distributor of Hepco & Becker Equipment and Luggage Systems for Africa

Agents and Stockists of Wunderlich Equipment and Accessories

Official Appointed Distributor of Corbin Seats for Africa

Thank you for a great day yesterday. As always it was well organised with good food at Elgro. The top cases issue is a bit worrying as someone really could get hurt. Maybe you need to ask participants who have the wrong equipment (measured by the numbers you quote below) to remove the top cases before the ride. All in all though a really fun day spent with like minded people.

Mark McIntosh

From: Ray Muller [mailto:ray@toursforafrica.co.za]
Sent: 23 August 2010 09:13
To: ‘Rolf Schindler’
Cc: Mark McIntosh; roberthowes@mweb.co.za; david.anley@za.nampak.com; ‘Pano’; ‘Etienne Greeff’; ‘Bruce MacMillan’; ‘Les Berman’; ‘Fred Coetzee’; ‘Franc Lubbe’; blog update; wbrits@yorktpt.com.sg; ‘Les Berman’; ‘Ryan Roux’; exclusive.dc@mweb.co.za; giltrow@mweb.co.za; carlo@lotterco.co.za; lcoxton@global.co.za
Subject: APPRECIATION – RIDE THE CRATER 22/8/’10

Greetings All,

On behalf of all at Cytech/TFA, Alain Morard and I would like to sincerely thank you for your interest in participating on the “Ride the Crater” on Sunday morning.

The Participants were a great group of riders, who were all seen to be having a good time and great ride.

Some unfortunate minor thrills and spills were part of the mornings ride with the odd motorcycle and rider/s displaying some new “character and ego scratches”.

The rider/s that became over excited and carried away in the height of the moment and made contact with terra firma and were unfortunately injured (ego or bodily) we all wish a speedy recovery with a clear message saying “respect your motorcycle because if you don’t it can seriously hurt you”

For the riders who unknowingly dropped a few “missiles” (top cases) off the back of their motorcycles, either spend a few extra rands and purchase a good quality Hepco & Becker Top Case (and lock it) rather than a BMW OE plastic type which if not actually bolted onto the motorcycle and dislodges because of an inferior locking system without you knowing, will become a projectile which could possibly kill someone or cause a serious accident

The count to – date of BMW OE Top Cases dislodging from motorcycles on our organized trips totals 186

In no way being disrespectful the rider who did not lock his Hepco & Becker Top Case onto his motorcycle causing it to unknowingly dismount and just about take a BMW R1200GS Adventure out, unfortunately negatively affects Hepco & Becker’s highly respected name and credibility because of the very unfortunate (understanding and respecting that maturing age is also taking its toll on our memories) oversight of not locking it onto the motorcycle

The novice riders truly excelled themselves and the riders who originally feared dirt/gravel and thick sand riding have no more major concerns as their fears have somewhat been overcome…………………all I can say is respect!!

We are fully aware that some of the maturing bodies may have been a bit stiff/sensitive and/or downright sore this morning, but as they say “what boys won’t do for fun”

We are sure that a lot was learnt by several of the riders, personal riding confidence boosted to a new level and new friendships were made.

If you achieved the listed facts, learned more about the extreme capabilities of your own Motorcycle, had great fun, pushed your limited, acknowledge how capable you actually are just given the push and got your adrenalin pumping, we at Cytech and our Team achieved the “Ride the Crater” objectives.

We would greatly respect your written feedback either good or bad to improve on things that may not have been up to standard. Kindly copy the other riders in as well with your comments

Hope to see you on this weekend’s “Ride Africa” on the 29th August ’10 at our venue in Fochville which will take you to new destinations in deepest darkest Africa or the 5 Day Zimbabwe/Mozambique Recce Run planned for early September

Once again thank you for your participation and valued support

Look forward to hearing from you

Best regards,

Ray Muller

Cycle Technology t/a Cytech and Tours for Africa

61 Port Road,

Robertsham,

Johannesburg.

2190

South Africa

Tel: (011) 433-8850

Mobile: 0828077776

Fax: (011) 433-9132

E-mail: info

Website: www.toursforafrica.co.za

Official Appointed Distributor of Hepco & Becker Equipment and Luggage Systems for Africa

Agents and Stockists of Wunderlich Equipment and Accessories

Official Appointed Distributor of Corbin Seats for Africa

I once again had a excellent riding experience and interaction with new and previously participating riders. The helpfulness and encouragement from every person is totally amassing. I must be honest the only time I did not enjoy myself, but this is probably still being a novice bike rider, was the strong winds on the tar sections. But I guess over time I will get used to all deferent road and weather conditions. Once again thank you for a well organised event, and I will certainly be at the Ride Africa. Thank you all.

Regards

Willem Brits
York Transport Equipment South Africa
+27 82 376 4552
wbrits

On behalf of all at Cytech/TFA, Alain Morard and I would like to sincerely thank you for your interest in participating on the “Ride the Crater” on Sunday morning.

The Participants were a great group of riders, who were all seen to be having a good time and great ride.

Some unfortunate minor thrills and spills were part of the mornings ride with the odd motorcycle and rider/s displaying some new “character and ego scratches”.

The rider/s that became over excited and carried away in the height of the moment and made contact with terra firma and were unfortunately injured (ego or bodily) we all wish a speedy recovery with a clear message saying “respect your motorcycle because if you don’t it can seriously hurt you”

For the riders who unknowingly dropped a few “missiles” (top cases) off the back of their motorcycles, either spend a few extra rands and purchase a good quality Hepco & Becker Top Case (and lock it) rather than a BMW OE plastic type which if not actually bolted onto the motorcycle and dislodges because of an inferior locking system without you knowing, will become a projectile which could possibly kill someone or cause a serious accident

The count to – date of BMW OE Top Cases dislodging from motorcycles on our organized trips totals 186

In no way being disrespectful the rider who did not lock his Hepco & Becker Top Case onto his motorcycle causing it to unknowingly dismount and just about take a BMW R1200GS Adventure out, unfortunately negatively affects Hepco & Becker’s highly respected name and credibility because of the very unfortunate (understanding and respecting that maturing age is also taking its toll on our memories) oversight of not locking it onto the motorcycle

The novice riders truly excelled themselves and the riders who originally feared dirt/gravel and thick sand riding have no more major concerns as their fears have somewhat been overcome…………………all I can say is respect!!

We are fully aware that some of the maturing bodies may have been a bit stiff/sensitive and/or downright sore this morning, but as they say “what boys won’t do for fun”

We are sure that a lot was learnt by several of the riders, personal riding confidence boosted to a new level and new friendships were made.

If you achieved the listed facts, learned more about the extreme capabilities of your own Motorcycle, had great fun, pushed your limited, acknowledge how capable you actually are just given the push and got your adrenalin pumping, we at Cytech and our Team achieved the “Ride the Crater” objectives.

We would greatly respect your written feedback either good or bad to improve on things that may not have been up to standard. Kindly copy the other riders in as well with your comments

Hope to see you on this weekend’s “Ride Africa” on the 29th August ’10 at our venue in Fochville which will take you to new destinations in deepest darkest Africa or the 5 Day Zimbabwe/Mozambique Recce Run planned for early September

Once again thank you for your participation and valued support

Look forward to hearing from you

Best regards,

Ray Muller

Cycle Technology t/a Cytech and Tours for Africa

61 Port Road,

Robertsham,

Johannesburg.

2190

South Africa

Tel: (011) 433-8850

Mobile: 0828077776

Fax: (011) 433-9132

E-mail: info

Website: www.toursforafrica.co.za

Official Appointed Distributor of Hepco & Becker Equipment and Luggage Systems for Africa

Agents and Stockists of Wunderlich Equipment and Accessories

Official Appointed Distributor of Corbin Seats for Africa

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